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    March 5, 2014
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happening right now, face to face with russia. secretary of state, john kerry, sil secretary of state sits down with the russian foreign minister. high hopes. are there hopes this can do anything to ease the crisis in ukraine. explosive words from hillary clinton, comparing vladmir putin to hitler and nazis. does she have her own ukraine problem. hold on tight. asteroids hours away from a close drive bsh -by of earth. what you need to know right now. hello, everyone.
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i'm john berman. michaela pereira is off today. we would like to el with come our viewers here in the united states and around the world. those stories and more. it is high-stakes diplomacy and tit for tat threats happening right now as the world looks for ways to respond to russia's military intervention in ukraine. secretary of state, john kerry, face to face with sergei lavrov. they are both in paris for talks that have been planned before the russian takeover. the talks are so much more urgent. perhaps the most important test yet as to whether dialogue can be used to resolve the crisis in ukraine. in some ways, there have been setbacks. if the us and eu impose sanctions on russia, washington is looking at a series of punitive steps including economic and diplomatic sanctions designed to isolate
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moscow. no sign either side is backing down from a somewhat polite standoff between russian and ukrainian troops. polite so far. these troops are all armed and the russian forces do remain in effect tiff control of the crimean peninsula. we are covering all the ankles f angles at this hour. elise labott joins us and michael holmes and our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto, joins us from washington. first, elise, i want to speak with you. i understand john kerry has already had a brief meeting with the russian foreign minister, sergei lavrov. they have had a somewhat decent relationship in the past. they are set to have a one-on-one meeting any minute now. what's the realistic goal of this meeting? >> reporter: the goal, john, is really to get russian prime minister, lavrov, to sit down with the ukrainian foreign minister. that minister flew on secretary
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kerry's plane last night with us from kiev to paris. he says he is really eager to sit down with the russian foreign minister. that's what all this diplomacy is about today, trying to give russia that diplomatic off ramp. they want russia and ukraine to sit down, have a dialogue along with the u.s., u.k., france, germany, members of the international community with an interest. they want to get monitors on the ground in ukraine acknowledging that russia does have these concerns in ukraine, particularly in the crimea. they say, listen, we can address those concerns shall if only you stand back and have this dialogue. let's get those monitors on the grown. that's what secretary kerry will be urging russian secretary lavrov. >> it does seem like a somewhat high bar. i want to bring in michael holmes. you have such an interesting perspective. in some ways, you have the united states and russia talking
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over you craukraine at this hou. what are ukrainians saying about all this? >> it is a very interesting point to make, john. we were down in the square most of the day today. i think it is fair to say that people down there are hopeful but skeptical. they are a little bit wary of what's going on around them and all this noise that's happening in terms of the talking but not much in the way of talking. a lot are worried that the country or crimea could end up being either in the hands of russia or that they could lose it to a form of autonomy. it would be run by a very pro-russian government and give russia the breeding space it wants and protect its interests. the ukrainians here have been worried that it might extend further than crimea, that it
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could go to other parts of eastern ukraine which have an ethnic russian majority. down there today, it was a very sort of sad sort of atmosphere, sombre atmosphere. those protesters down there, the barricades are still there. they say they are not going anywhere. quite frankly, they don't trust what's happening at the moment and they are going to stay put until they get some sort of a result, a democratic result. there are those elections in may. they say they are not going to go anywhere until at least then. it was interesting also today, just quickly. there were what we sort of called protest tourists. hundreds of people coming by with their cameras and cell phone videos and the like taking pictures of that protest camp and honoring those that have been killed in these protests. it was a very moving thing. >> it does speak to the surreal calm in kiev where armed troops are literally face to face in crimea. michael holmes in kiev, thank
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you so much. jim sciutto, i want to discuss the dual tracks that are going on. on the one hand, the united states, as elise has pointed o out, is trying to offer some off ramps to vladmir putin. the united states and nato talking about sanctions. the russians responding with their own idea. they say they would ban u.s. and europe countries and seize assets if sanctions are imposed. what does the united states see with these threats and counter threats? >> it is two sides of the same coins, the carrots and the sticks. they have the off ramp, including the idea of sending observers into eastern ukraine. president putin and others have said that ethnic russians are under threat. they are calling for our help and demanding rescue. we will send observers in and they will take a look at the situation and see what can be doneme done. back up. at the same time, also saying
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that our patience is wearing thin. if russia does not pull back to its original positions, we are going to start imposing costs. you have two costs in effect. one on the financial front. you have language being drawn up to target certain russian individuals, russian government officials, military officials involved with this invasion, freeze their assets blork from traveling, that coined of thing. it is a tactic that has worked with other countries like iran, for instance. then, we have the military aspect. we have talked a lot on this program about how in effect, military options are off the table. no one is going to be firing any guns or missiles over the ukraine but options in the military category are in effect on the table. that's what secretary of defense, chuck hagel, delivered today. we are going to send an aircraft wing that's been in poland, a nato ally to the west of ukraine, that's going to be extended. the u.s. is going to send more aircraft to the baltic state,
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north of the ukraine, also nato allies. more aircraft there. he is going to convenient nato ministers to talk about the next step. you have the carrot and the stick. if this doesn't change, the situation on the ground doesn't change, costs are going to be imposed. at the same time, we are going to demonstrate our commitment to those nato allies. you see them there, the ones in green along ukraine's western poured der. . >> jim sciutto live and michael holmes, we do have some breaking news right now from capitol hill. as jim was saying, what is being most used right now, words and statements. diplomacy in this crisis. there are about to be some words and statements coming from the u.s. congress. >> our deirdra walsh just spoke
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with ed royce, chairman of the foreign committee in the house. he said tomorrow that committee will hold a vote on a non-binding resolution with some sanctions for russia. the key thing to underscore is, it is a resolution, nonbinding. so it wouldn't actually put these sanctions into place but it would give congress a start, a first step in making clear what it wants to do. it looks like it will be in a bipartisan way with regard to punishing russia and sending a signal to russia. royce told our deirdre walsh and said it will be leverage. the olli garks that are close to putin have a tremendous amount of money. this is something that will happen if all goes as planned, tomorrow in the foreign affairs committee. there is a hope it will go to
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the full house early next week. >> it is nonbinding. it does have the effect of showing russia and the world, including u.s. allies that the united states is unified in its rejection of the russian actions in ukraine in crimea. that's an important message to send. despite whatever criticism republicans have had up until this point, it does show some unity going forward. dana bash on capitol hill. ahead for us, the crisis in ukraine driving huge swings in the markets. do you really want vladmir putin as your money manager? that question coming up next. before using her new bank of america credit card, which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month. tracey got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card,
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who i would you like vladmir putin as your financial planner? what happens in the ukraine doesn't necessarily stay in ukraine. it is already affecting your wallet. the crisis there driving markets around the world in a big way, including here in the united states. what can you and what should you do about all this? let's bring in our richard quest and my friend, christine romans. christine, i spent a lot of time sitting next to you. all morning you have been saying to me, we are one move away, one false step away from what cobul be a major market meltdown or the opposite. >> this is a serious question. you have a stock market up for five years in a row and people that are very nervous about what happens if you have the europe, russia and the u.s. fighting over prospects in ukraine.
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i say, don't let vladmir putin be your financial manager. here is why. if you sold stocks on monday, then, when they rallied back, you lost all that. regular people should not be. regular investors like you and me should not be trading geopolitics. it is a fool's game. we don't know what will happen next. plan on retirement based on how old you are, stocks, bonds, asset allocation. >> you don't let vladimir putin get under your skin. christine romans is talking about what effect this is going to have on americans right now. this has a much bigger impact, much more direct on everyone in europe. >> of course, not only is it on their doorstep but if you take countries like germany, they have the biggest cross border flows between europe and russia. which commodity is most at risk, gas, oil, gas lines go through
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ukraine on to europe. so not only is this hiking the price of gas to the ukraine. that could disrupt supplies to countries from as far north as finland all the way down to the mediterranean. many countries, particularly in the eastern europe, get faster amounts of fuel and energy from russia. this is a very complicated spider's web financially. >> what's being discussed are sanctions. christine romans, what kind of effect can this have on russia. >> russia sells all the gas and oil. it gets paid. if they are going to have some sort of dispute on aland gas with europe or is going to shut off oil and gas again to ukraine, it hurts itself. >> it does. you would have thought so. but, there are plenty of other places in the world where they can sell that. look down towards the east. look down towards southeast asia. and, don't forget, if there is
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disruption in the oil market, what happens to the price. >> it goes up. >> who gains if it goes up. >> russia. if you are a seller. >> the imaginations and permations, sanctions, the u.s. is fot wanting to shut russia out, for good cause. they are big players in the london financial markets. sanctions is always a policy that turns into somebody refuses to join in. >> vladmir putin already said yesterday very simply, we are all interconnected. if you try to hurt us, we are all going to get urt had. it is mutually assured damage. that is scary, because europe just coming out of recession. >> .3% growth in the last quarter in europe. you are talking about something highly fragile and now at risk. >> thank you very much. sit tight. we have something just in. defense secretary, chuck
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hagel, has been testifying on capitol hill at a senate armed services committee hearing talking about defense budgets, pentagon budgets. he did have an exchange with republican senator, john mccain. these two men have a lot of history and this was some of the challenging or contentious over ukraine. >> you would like to brief your staff on the specifics of your question. >> how about commenting on news reports that say that. >> news reports are news reports. that's not the same as real intelligence. >> in other words, the fact is, mr. secretary, it was not predicted by our intelligence and that's already been well-known, another massive failure because of our misreading, total misreading of the intentions of vladmir putin. >> senator, i said that we were -- >> let me reread my statements.
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that was that mr. putin was not going to see sevastopol go into hands of a government that was not his. that is a fact. please, go ahead. >> i said that early last week, we were well aware of the threats when i was in nato again. there was a meeting specifically about the threat with the nato ukraine commission. i have been speaking to the past -- over the past couple of weeks, more than that, to the ukraine defense ministers. the two i spoke to are now gone. this wasn't sudden or new that we didn't know what was going on. >> the president an the secretary of state have said, this is not east/west. this is not cold war rhetoric. do you agree with that statement, cold war actions,
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when mr. putin denies that there are troops in russia? when mr. lavrov says that they can't withdraw russian troops, because there are no russian troops in crimea? does that have some echos to you of cold war? >> you have been listening to senator john mccain grilling defense secretary, chuck hagel, mostly over the issue of why u.s. intelligence sources did not know or did not warn that vladmir putin and the russians would really roll into crimea and take operational control of that. why there were not earlier warnings. that is a question you are hearing from many republicans today. chuck hagel didn't have much of an answer. he was saying that the u.s. did say what happened mostly. that hearing ways mostly notable for the tensions that did exist between the two men. i have to remind you that chuck hagel is one of the few people to endorse senator john mccain,
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one of the few republicans to endorse senator john mccain, when he was running against george bush in 2000. they were once friends. that did not sound friendly. >> ahead, what can president obama do to punish president putin. there are three waist white house is considering hillary clinton reportedly comparing what russia is doing in ukraine to what the nazis did before world war ii. what's she talking about? that's coming up.
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>> welcome back.
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covering the crisis in ukraine. the question is, if vladmir putin does not back down, president obama has threatened to isolate russia? what exactly can the president do? what does the white house really think might happen next. "new york times" chief white house correspondent, peter baker, is joining me. he has been ushpushing the envee on what the u.s. thinks russia is doing in crimea. does the white house believe the most likely outcome is a freeze of the current situation, russian troops staying or do they think there is a chance of an actual roll back of russian forces? >> well, they think there is a changes of a roll back. they hope so. they understand that is not the likeliest outcome. they see three different forces going forward, russia can escalate this by moving forward or destabilizing ukraine, that could fracture the country in half. that's one of the worst
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outcomes. the best outcomes is that putin takes one of these off ramps and agrees to move his troops back and allow international monitors to come in to guard against any supposed attacks on russian speakers there, not that there is any real evidence of that. the more likely is the middle, muddling, uncomfortable, unsatisfying, status quo situation where russian troops remain on the ground and the west has a hard time trying to dislodge them. >> what does that mean going forward? how does the u.s. negotiate that reality moving forward as it deals with syria, as it deals with iran and so many of these world issues? will it be able to continue to talk to russia, have russia at the table? if it's troops are still effectively occupying crimea. >> that's why it is an important crisis for the white house. not just about one place or one country. it is about syria, iran, middle east peace. russia has a role in all of these different foreign policy
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items on president obama's agenda. without some form of cooperation, it only makes his job that much harder. we weren't getting that much cooperation on syria anyway. it is in russia's interest to continue cooperating. but, you know, it is hard to imagine if this continues and develops into a more hostile situation where there are sanctions being applied by the united states and counter sanctions by russia as they have now threatened. >> the president said something really, really interesting in his statement yesterday about ukraine. he went out of his way to counter the perception that exists among many, including between on twitter and including reporters and some representatives from other countries, that vladmir putin's actions were clever strategically or somehow a show of strength. president obama made clear he
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doesn't think they were clever strategically or a show of strength. what is the white house argument and why do they seem defensive about this? >> the white house argument is that it is not a show of strength but, in fact, putin lost the larger question of who is going to run ukraine. his ally, victor yanukovych, has fled in the face of street protests. the government now is prowestern, not pro moscow and is going to have elections in may which will not result from a promoscow government. putin lost the larger battle in this crimea thing as a sign of desperation. they are under seenl heiege her home. the president is not perceived
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strong enough and the white house disputes that. >> you have such a unique perspective. you have also written extensively on russia. there are these two men, two presidents. barack obama and flat mevladimi, so much has been written about their body language and their relationship? do you think this is personal for these two men? >> it is personal in the sense they do not get along. neither one of them has enormous respect or affect for the other. it goes back to july, 2009, when they met for the first time in moscow. president obama went to see president putin, then the prime minister. he opened the meeting with a generic observation that there had been stress. that set him off for an hour-long monologue about all the ways that he thought the united states had tried to mishandle russia. he said it in a mad tone.
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there are different generations and mind-set and they do not correct. when president putin sends troops in, it is not because he doesn't like president obama, he feels there are national interests at stake there for him. crimea, very important to russia, have been historically. we have to be careful about overpersonalizing this. >> the fwaact there are troops the ground is more important than any body slouching either troop might be doing. >> ahead at this hour, hillary clinton lashes out at vladmir putin and the russians, comparisons to hitler and nazis. how this crisis could play into her hopes for 2016. stay with us. all-you-can-eat is a hotel policy
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john. i should tell you that hillary clinton will be speaking here in a few hours at ucla. she is giving a lecture. there is about 1800 students that have tickets. she will be talking to a very large group there. these were made at an off-camera fund-raiser. it was supposed to be closed to the press, off the record. certainly, john, you and i have learned in the last couple of years that there is really no such thing as off the record when it comes to a fund-raiser. she was talking about putin extending passports. she went on to say the germans
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by an scestry, hitler kept sayi, i have to go and protect my people. another person who was an editor of a small group of newspapers who happened to be at this event said she was very quickly to say, followed that up by saying that there is obviously an attempt by the obama administration for a peaceful resolution. she tried to clean up her remarks at the end. you invoke hitler and nazi germany, you know, john, it is sort of the third rail of rhetoric. you are going to get a ton of intention for it. >> they are almost nuclear wars. they used it as a pretext. it does get to a bigger issue for hillary clinton. this is how she performed as
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secretary of state. in particular, in regards to russia. the headline says, does hillary have a ukraine problem. hillary clinton did the famous reset button with russia her first year as secretary of state. how does what's going on right now in ukraine, in crimea, how might this impact her if she decides to run for president in 2016? >> that's really part of the question. if you see the u.s./russian relationship deteriorating so much under the watch of president obama, hillary clinton's critics were going to say, this was something she made a priority. it didn't work out. from the perspective of the obama administration, from the perspective of those close to hillary clinton, this has much to do about putin's leadership as they see it and not necessarily hers or president obama's. i think another interesting point, john, is that when you look at the comments here that she made yesterday and again we are waiting to see if they
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clarifies any of this when she speaks here at ucla in a few hours. they sort of create a lot of daylight between her and president obama and secretary of state kerry. she comes off as appearing certainly more hawkish, certainly more harsh on this but i've talked to a lot of democrats and republicans and the consensus seems to be that even if that is kind of creating someday light in there between foreign policy and president obama and her, the consensus seems to be it wasn't particularly a sophisticated way to do it. you start invoking these terms and really people don't hear the nuance and they are not really listening to anything else you say. >> i want to give you something that may make the clinton noncampaign campaign noncampaign a little happier. almost 70% of americans do approve of the job she did as secretary of state. 51% want her to run in 2016.
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this examined her like ability overall. most found she is not hard to like. 51% said they thought she was likeable. this might be trite for other politicians. for hillary clinton, this is a big, big deal and a big change from where things were back in 2008. >> that's exactly right. you are looking at more than double dinlg igit increases in likability. it has been an issue for her. here, it shows that a lot more americans like her than they did six, seven years ago. that good news for her. the other thing is leaning on her experience as secretary of state, this is key. this is what we see her doing. a lot of people do approve of
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the job she did. that's why you see some of her critics trying to take shots at her foreign policy and experience. >> brianna keilar, great to have you on at this hour. good to see you today. >> good to see you. ahead at this hour, the u.s. plans a new military strategy in response to the crisis in ukraine. we'll tell you what the u.s. is doing coming up next. mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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developments at this hour in the crisis in ukraine, western powers are increasing pressure on president vladmir putin to pull his troops out. the kremlin warns that if sanctions are imposed, moscow could seize u.s. and european assets in russia. it appears the war of sanctions
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is set to begin on the international front. on the military front, defense secretary, chuck hagel, has just told the senate arms service committee moments ago that he suspended all military exercises with russia, two tri lateral exercises were planned. the defense department is stepping up joint training in poland and the u.s. will add additional patrol aircraft to nato's air policing mission on the baltics right now. anthony cordisman is currently at the center for strategic and international studies. explain to me these new moves, joint training he canner sizes in poland, policing flights over the baltics. what's going on? >> these are largely a deterrent. you want to make sure that russia knows that we are going to do something. that we will reinforce our
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allies, that our members of nato, the most exposed allies are poland and the baltic states. obviously, the baltic states, small forces on the very edge of russia are areas where you want to make it clear to russia that there are really trip wires, that it can't go too far. what you can't do is credibly move naval forces into the black sea area that would really make a difference there. there is risk of any kind of presence in the ukraine would be so great. we aren't going to take those chances. >> it sounds like not much more than flexing but flexing in places that are important. tell me about what the russians are thinking.
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the white house is coming to the thoughts that there might be just a freeze where russian troops just stay. what would that mean for the russians? can they occupy the crimean peninsula indefinitely? >> they certainly can. they already do. there is a larger ukrainian force in crimea than the russian force but it has very little real military capability. >> there is no real air capability they are two ships. this is facing the entire russian black sea fleet. you have low grade army units and they are facing now some of the best trained forces in russia. russia has bases throughout the crimea and it controls the main ferry port which means that it can easily move things in by sea but it can block any land maneuvers or build-up that would come from the ukraine.
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there are two major roots to the north of the crimean peninsula. is this something that russia can sustained indefinitely, yes. it certainly has the capability of being there just as long as it wants. >> anthony, great to have you here. thanks for being here. ahead at this hour, a hearing on capitol hill turned into a shouting match today. we will tell you who said what in a moment. also, an asteroid making a close encounter with earth in just a few hours. we'll show you just how close ahead. ♪
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ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza. it's covered by most health plans. all right. political worlds colliding minutes ago minutes ago. this is about whether the irs targeted conservative groups seeking tax ex emstatus. republicans claim it was politically motivated. tea party and other conservative words, they were targeted. lois learner refused to testify today, invoking her fifth amendment rights, as she did last year during the hearings. listen to this. >> my counsel has advised me that i have not waived my constitutional rights under the fifth amendment, and on his advice, i will decline to answer any question on the subject matter of this hearing. >> that is her right to do that. the testimony broke down into a heated argument, though, between the committee's ranking
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democrat, elijah coupummings an darrell issa. listen to this. >> ladies and gentlemen, seeking the truth is the obligation of this committee. i can see no point in going further. i have no expectation that ms. learner will cooperate with this committee. >> mr. chairman, i have a statement. i have a procedural question, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i have a procedural question. mr. chairman, you cannot run a committee like this. you just cannot do this. this is -- we're better than that as a country. we're better than that as a committee. i have asked for a few minutes to ask a procedural -- and i want to ask a question! what are we hiding? what's the big deal? may i ask my question? may i state my statement? >> you're all free to leave. we have adjourned, but the gentleman may ask his question.
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>> thank you very much. mr. chairman, i have one procedural question, and it goes to get the information you have asked. >> what is your question? >> let me say what i have to say. you have listened to you four for the last 15 or 20 minutes. let me say what i have to say. >> ms. learner, you're released. you may -- >> but first, i would like to use my time to make some brief points. for the past year, the central republican accusation in this investigation -- >> we're adjourned. close it down. >> you heard right there, chairman issa finally adjourned the hearings. that really got the democrats quite angry. you do not usually see that type of heated exchange between a committee chairman and the ranking member. not something that happens very often on capitol hill. speaking of worlds colliding, at this hour, a giant asteroid hurling towards earth. it will be a close call. how close will it come to making impact? at its closest, closer to us on
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earth than the moon is, 3:30 eastern time. nasa says there is no reason it to panic. should we believe them? chad myers is here, hopefully to alleviate our fears. chad, how far away are we talking here? how big is this space rock? make me calm about this whole thing. >> 217,000 miles away. that's a long jog. .9 of the way between the moon and the earth will dx-110 be. how big is it, you ask? it is a rock sitting on a baseball field the size of the infield. about 30 meters across, 90 feet up and down, big rock like this. so it's decent enough to do some damage if it would hit the earth. but we're not going to see that whatsoever. it's going to stay plenty far away. you ask what are the odds. the odds are somewhere around 1 in 10 million of we getting this wrong. scientists saying, look, this is going to whiz by at 3:30, we're going to be fine. it's the 110th asteroid, though,
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they have found in 2014. so there are many more out there that will be whizzing by that we may find out one or two days in advance, john. >> so a 1 in 10 million chance it hits the earth. there is a chance, 1 in 10 million. >> actually better than winning the powerball. i just want to put this into perspective, just for a second. i know we believe that the earth is the center of the universe and the sun revolves around the earth. what if you're standing on the asteroid right now and you're saying, look at this thing coming. i mean, there's an earth in the way. there is a big blue marble about to fly right by the asteroid. so it's a much bigger problem for the asteroid than it is for earth. >> i understand what you're saying. i'm less concerned for the asteroid, though, chad, no matter what you say, than i am for us. the amateur astronomers out there, will they be able to see this thing with a telescope at 3:30 this afternoon? >> no, it's too small.
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and it will be blinded by the sun because where it is at 3:30 -- if it would be on the other side of the earth, you might be able to see it, but it is so small. you can look at it online. there will be a earth observatory telescope looking at it, just google the search for the asteroid and you'll be able to see that camera. >> chad myers, thank you so much. we're much more calm about this thing right now, not likely to be hit by this asteroid at 3:30 p.m. thank you, chad. a few more stories we want to tell but at this hour. the times have seriously changed. for the first time, there are marijuana ads on television. this ad is caring on comcast stations in new jersey. it's for marijuana doctors.com. the group says it aims to connect patients with doctors in states where medical marijuana is legal. then there is this. out of los angeles, a list of places crocking down on electronic cigarettes. the city council voted to treat them like regular smokes. that means no one inhaling nicotine in parks.
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supporters don't want the chance of secondhand vapor being found harmful down the road. new york, chicago and d.c. have passed similar e cigarette laws. thank you so much for joining us at this hour. "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts right after this. geico motorcycle. see how much you could save.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. wednesday march 5th. welcome to "legal view." there is a breakthrough to be had today in the occupation of the black sea, may not come from ukraine or moscow. but it just may come from paris, where secretary of state john kerry is meeting face-to-face this hour with his russian counterpart, sergey lavrov. it is their first direct talks since russian force